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While it is good Vance has improved a lot since Hillbilly Elegy, the big difference between him and Platner is that he had really lived that life. Having managed a lot of working class whites, I am sympathetic to his opinion many of them aren't even fit to manage their own affairs. You learn this best through experience with them.

I think this is where Vance ended up as he spent more time among elites. He realized that instead of putting pressure on the white working class to improve themselves and society, as past generations of elites would have done, the current crop have only tried to figure out how they can profit on their decline, while possibly doing to things to speed it up because they despise the WWC. A certain percentage appear to believe this atones them from the sins that created their inherited wealth, but that doesn't apply to all of them. I don't know enough about Goad's work to guess where he would have ended up on Vance, but I don't see the people he came from having another option, let alone a better one to embrace as their champion.

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Goad said this about Vance in 2024:

"As I wrote here last week, I do not trust the mercurial, roly-poly, rabbi-endorsed Ohio Senator who went through many name changes until he settled on J. D. Vance. Unlike Vance, who seems to change his name and his political sympathies more often than most people change their socks, my opinion of him has remained steadfastly negative since I reviewed his book Hillbilly Elegy six years ago."

https://www.unz.com/article/j-d-vance-defends-his-remarks-about-childless-cat-ladies/

Given Goad's negative view of Christianity, I would bet he'd be even more hostile to the man today.

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